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Old 03-11-2008, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got there in plenty of time to get a seat. Before the mtg starts a lady announces that due to Fire Regulations only 90 people are allowed in the room. All the rest have to leave the room. I thought a riot would start before the meeting. To the credit of the attendees the DEC officers did not have a problem.

This is a disgrace!!! You invite people to a mtg that is affecting their livelihoods and also other anglers that enjoy fishing. Then you do not provide a meeting room large enough to sit everyone??? This is a disgrace!!!

If the MRAC can not manage a proper size room to fit every one, how can the tax paying anglers, who pay these peoples salaries, expect decisions based on good mgt practices, fair and unbiased! It is a disgrace. I would be ashamed to say I worked for that group.

Folks, the livelihoods of families recs and comms are at stake here. Don't forget the ripple business effect!

I asked the DEC Officer to see if there was a pb/cb owner standing in the hall who could have my seat. Capt Tom of the Grand Slam charter boat out of Montauk came in. He deserves to be inside the room as he is an owner and I was there for support of all my friends. As I go out I am agasht as I see Capt Desi of the CQ out in the hall. He had to be in that room!!! Fortunately another angler gave Capt Desi his seat. I walked out with this gentleman, who started fishing 2 years ago, and thanked him.

There were about 25 people out in the hall when I left. Let me tell you, there were capt/owners out in the hall that have earned the right to be inside that mtg. As I said before this is a disgrace how the mgmt of MRAC prepared for this mtg.

You know folks the way mgrs at the Fed and State levels function I think it is time for another BOSTON TEA PARTY. It is time that they started doing what is right for the people who pay their salaries, that's you and me. And I mean morally right not this legally gray colored crap that they consider right.

Now we have to wait for the mtg to end to find out what happened.

Every time I go to these Federal and State meetings I leave disgusted in their ineptitude, inability to accomplish anything and excuses, excuses and more excuses! I always say I will not go again and then do just the opposite. Well I think today was the straw that broke the camels back. Enough crap is enough crap. I am done. The younger anglers have to carry on.

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Old 03-11-2008, 03:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is another thread up already telling what went on at the meeting.
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you very much for attending the meeting and attempting to fight for us! Like I told you, I doubt I would have made it from City Island to Seatauket in time ( had to go there for something work related today). I give you a ton of credit for giving up your seat to someone who's livelihood depends on this [img]thumb.gif[/img].

To me, the fact that they held the meeting in too small a room just speaks volumes about their true feelings towards NY's fishermen. Not important enough to find an adequate location [img]pissed.gif[/img]!

I certainly can't blame you for giving up on the management equation, Neil. I just hope you don't give up on the whole pastime.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Neil thanks for letting me have your seat. I walked in about 2:10 because I had to park about a 1/2 mile away, and as soon as I did a DEC Officer asked if there were any Party or Charter boats captains who wanted in. I immediately said I was a captain from Montauk, and low and behold I'm taking your seat. I'm glad I got in, but sorry I took your seat, you've been at this a long time and you deserved to be in that room. Just one note on the meeting as the crux of it was reported in the other thread. We know the MRFSS are wrong, the DEC knows the MRFSS are wrong, the scientists know the MRFSS are wrong, but still we are being held hostage by this ridiculous way of calculating the recreational catch. This must be changed or party and charter boat captains will soon go the way of the local blacksmith. Again Neil thanks for the seat, you are a true gentlemen, but you had just as much a right as me to be in that room. Capt. Tom
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That is a good point, and we need to follow Mr. Weiss' pleas to petition our legislatures to do this. That is the only way things will change. The DEC officials and councilors seemed sincere in their desire to work w/ industry, but can only work w/in the framework of the law.

I'm going to lock this topic, Capt. Neil, so we can all have one discussion on one thread.

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