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Old 01-27-2014, 05:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Do they have take into account the "Accountability Measures" this time around?

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I'm pretty sure that they do.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Default Feb 19th RAP meeting agenda.

Agenda Items:
 Discussion of Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 management alternatives related to the recreational groundfish fishery
 Discussion of recreational accountability measures for Gulf of Maine cod and haddock
This meeting was rescheduled from January 22, 2014
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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NEFMC
Recreational Advisory Panel Meeting
Wednesday February 19, 2014
0900
Double Tree by Hilton Hotel
50 Ferncroft Rd
Danvers, MA 01923

Agenda Items

Discussion of Habitat Omnibus Admendment 2 management alternatives related to the recreational groundfish fishery

Discussion of recreational accountability measures for Gulf of Maine cod and Haddock.

Meeting documents can be found HERE by selecting Next Recreational Advisory Panel Meeting

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Anyone have any summary from the RAP meeting today??
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Not yet, I couldn't attend. Summary should be out today or tomorrow.
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I didn't attend but heard this is what they came up with.

" Lose two months(march and april), raise to 22 inches for cod and haddock, still no limit on haddock."

I also heard haddock will be re-assesed this summer??

All subject to change I guess.


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Old 02-20-2014, 08:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I also heard haddock will be re-assesed this summer??

All subject to change I guess.


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They should reassess haddock, I was just reading yesterday that some (non-NOAA) scientists are saying that the haddock biomass is at a 50 year high!

We'll see what the council adopts.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:07 AM   #28 (permalink)
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In brief, the RAP made the following recomendations to the Council

In fishing year 2014 Haddock will be closed until during March & April 2015.

Both cod and haddock will have the same bag limit (9 cod unlimited haddock) but minimum size will increase to 22" for BOTH species.

Maintain the current WGOM ground fish closure (for commercial fishing).

Issued a statement of doubt concerning the validity of data used in regards to private boat recreational anglers.

Recommended No Action on the establishment of a Dedicated Habitat Research Area

Maintain the current Cashes Ledge & Jeffrey's Bank ground fish closure(for commercial fishing).

Maintain the George's Bank Areas 1&2 ground fish closure closure (for commercial fishing)

These recommendation will go before the full Council next week who will then either accept or make changes and then pass them on to Regional Administrator for NMFS for final action.

The changes in regs will occur on May 1, 2014. Until that time we will fish on the same regs as last season.

Personally I will be very surprised if the RA accepts the RAP recomendations as even though the data is questionable in some areas (as admitted to by the representative of the NE Fisheries Science Center), this is the data that will be used and the RAP recomendations have only a 25% chance of achieving the sub ACL for recreational fisherman in FY 2014.

While I agree with the RAP recomendations regarding Admendment 2 (Habitat) there will be intense pressure from both commercial fishing to open areas in the WGOM and from the Stellwagen Bank Association for establishing a 55 sq mile Dedicated Habitat Reseach Area which will include a "Reference Area" in which no ground fishing (commercial or recreational will be allowed). The DHRA located to the east of Stellwagen in an area where we have been forced to fish since 2010 when catch shares allowed large draggers to strip the bank clear of all ground fish.

The full Council will meet on Tuesday Feb 25th at the same hotel (Hilton) in Danvers. The agenda has the Recreational Groundfish Discussion scheduled for 09:45. Only 45 minutes have been allotted for this discussion. The remainder of Tuesday and Wednesday's disussion will be devoted to the Habitat Committee.

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There will be a benchmark assessment of haddock done in July 2014.
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Default DRAFT MEETING SUMMARY (MOTIONS ONLY)

Recreational Advisory Panel
DoubleTree Hilton, Danvers, MA
February 19, 2014

The Recreational Advisory Panel (RAP) met on February 19, 2014 in Danvers, MA to: 1) discuss potential FY2014 proactive accountability measures (AMs) for the Gulf of Maine (GOM) cod and haddock stocks and, 2) review the alternatives in Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 and impacts analysis in the draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) of interest to the recreational fishery.

Meeting Attendance: Barry Gibson (Chairman), Michael Sosik (Vice Chair), Frank Blount (GF OSC Chairman), Richard Bellevance, Tom DePersia, Jason Colby, Peter Gawne, Patrick Paquette, Johnathan Sterrit, Donald Swanson, William Tower, Kevin Twombly (RAP members present); Jamie M. Cournane, PhD, Fiona Hogan, PhD, Michelle Bachman, and Andrew Applegate (NEFMC staff); Michael Ruccio (NMFS GARFO staff); Scott Steinback (NEFSC/SSB). In addition, approximately 15 members of the public attended.

Key Outcomes:

· RAP recommended potential AMs for FY2014 for GOM cod and haddock stocks.
· RAP recommended alternatives under consideration in the DEIS of Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2.

Agenda item #1: Gulf of Maine Haddock and Cod

Presentation: Recent Groundfish PDT Analysis of the GOM Haddock Stock (Jamie Cournane, Groundfish PDT Chair)
Presentation: Gulf of Maine Cod and Haddock: Review of FY2013 Bioeconomic Model and Potential AMs for FY2014 (Scott Steinback, NEFSC/SSB)
1. MOTION: Twolley/Bellavance
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council that the GOM cod and haddock AMs remain at status quo regulations for the recreational fishery in FY 2014.
MOTION #1 TABLED 10-0-0.

2. MOTION: Bellevance/DePersia
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council that for GOM haddock and cod separate measures be considered for the for-hire and private anglers, that are conservational equivalents.
MOTION #2 FAILED 3-6-1.

3. MOTION: Paquette/Sterrit
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council that for GOM haddock and cod measures for FY2014 include the following: closing GOM haddock for October 15th, 2014 through April 15th, 2015 and reduce minimum size GOM haddock to 20 inches.
MOTION #3 FAILED 2-3-4.

4. MOTION: Tower/Paquette
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council that 1) for GOM haddock for FY2014 to close wave 2 (March and April), and 2) adopt up to a 22 in minimum size cod and up to a 22 in minimum size haddock.
MOTION #4 PASSED 9-1-0.

RAP CONSESUS STATEMENT

The RAP has serious concerns with the MRIP private recreational cod and haddock data on effort (number of trips) and non-compliance issues for FY2013 regarding minimum sizes.

Agenda item #2: Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2

5. MOTION: DePersia/Tower
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council for the Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 the selection of alternatives that 1) maintain the WGOM groundfish closure and 2) for DHRA alternatives- No Action- in the Gulf of Maine Area as preferred.
MOTION #5 PASSED 8-0-0.

6. MOTION: Tower/Paquette
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council for the Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 the selection of alternatives that maintain the Cashes Ledge groundfish/habitat closure and Jeffery’s Bank habitat closures.
MOTION #6 PASSED 8-0-0.


7. MOTION: Tower/Paquette
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council for the Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 the selection of alternatives that maintain the Closed Area 1 and 2.
MOTION #7 PASSED 6-1-0.

8. MOTION: Paquette/Tower
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council for the Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 the designation of the Massachusetts Bay Cod Spawning Area.
MOTION #8 PASSED 5-0-1.

9. MOTION: Sterrit/Tower
The RAP recommends to the Groundfish OSC/Council for the Habitat Omnibus Amendment 2 that recreational vessels continue to be exempted from the rolling closures (either through No Action or Alternative 2A).
MOTION #9 PASSED 6-1-0.

The RAP meeting adjourned at approximately 5:15 p.m.
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